Comments on: hCalendar and timezones http://smackman.com/2006/05/10/hcalendar-and-timezones/ Putting the smack down, one smack at a time Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:16:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Peter Krantz http://smackman.com/2006/05/10/hcalendar-and-timezones/#comment-7 Wed, 17 May 2006 14:57:33 +0000 http://smackman.com/2006/05/10/hcalendar-and-timezones/#comment-7 One idea could be to provide parsers with the format used in the element value. Datetime constructs are typically standardized in writing anyway (you may even have a national standard). So, instead of trying to squeeze in data in an attribute which isn't meant to hold it (e.g. title) one could do like this: [span class="dtstart MMM-dd-yyyy"]Dec 24 2007[/span] Of course this creates other problems (e.g. how to represent other characters while maintaining valid values for class names). Maybe some more research should be done to see if this works. But, we follow DRY and do not abuse the title element. One idea could be to provide parsers with the format used in the element value. Datetime constructs are typically standardized in writing anyway (you may even have a national standard).

So, instead of trying to squeeze in data in an attribute which isn’t meant to hold it (e.g. title) one could do like this:

[span class=”dtstart MMM-dd-yyyy”]Dec 24 2007[/span]

Of course this creates other problems (e.g. how to represent other characters while maintaining valid values for class names). Maybe some more research should be done to see if this works.

But, we follow DRY and do not abuse the title element.

]]> by: karl http://smackman.com/2006/05/10/hcalendar-and-timezones/#comment-4 Fri, 12 May 2006 02:32:19 +0000 http://smackman.com/2006/05/10/hcalendar-and-timezones/#comment-4 Even better if you do that, really simplify it. Right now there are two issues about this. [abbr class="dtstart" title="2006-05-01T12:15:03.0Z"]5:15am[/abbr] title is for accessibility. It helps to have a better understanding of the content. In the microformat use it's becoming the opposite. In a sense, this would be more logical in terms of accessibility [abbr class="dtstart" title="5:15am"]2006-05-01T12:15:03.0Z[/abbr] but then it would go against the microformat principles of making it readable. The second issue is that it doesn't respect the DRY principle. There is a redundancy of information and then it's prone to errors when we update it. For example, someone with a wysiwyg tool. I would rather prefer something like that: [span class="dtstart tz-Z time"]5:15am[/span] And then the rest of javascript needed to make it right in display and processing. Even better if you do that, really simplify it. Right now there are two issues about this.

[abbr class=”dtstart” title=”2006-05-01T12:15:03.0Z”]5:15am[/abbr]

title is for accessibility. It helps to have a better understanding of the content. In the microformat use it’s becoming the opposite. In a sense, this would be more logical in terms of accessibility

[abbr class=”dtstart” title=”5:15am”]2006-05-01T12:15:03.0Z[/abbr]

but then it would go against the microformat principles of making it readable.

The second issue is that it doesn’t respect the DRY principle. There is a redundancy of information and then it’s prone to errors when we update it. For example, someone with a wysiwyg tool.

I would rather prefer something like that:

[span class=”dtstart tz-Z time”]5:15am[/span]

And then the rest of javascript needed to make it right in display and processing.

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